The WA (Warm Audio) brand of capsule is the result of several years of research, a lifetime of listening, and a passion for great sound. I put the WA14 through an ISA one, and it sounds fantastic. The bass, on the other hand, is lovely and warm, and the overall feeling was, to my ears, very present. 5 . Why do people keep crying about having a discussion? 24 . Manufactured by hand, with only five workers at the time, the popularity of these microphones quickly spread across the region. Above all else, Warm Audio capsules came from the desire to give customers far more quality/value than what they are used to getting in an affordable microphone. You can always EQ it out if you need the part to sit back, and it's much harder (sometimes impossible) to EQ it in when it's not there. They clearly know what they’re doing. Sadly for the C414, I think I ended up getting a better mic for less money. Different hole pattern, still all brass and achieves the same frequency response. Some people are kind of annoyed with the marketing. Founded in 1947, in Vienna, Austria, the first AKG microphones were quick to make a splash on the scene. Only 1 left in stock - order soon. 138 . To me what's more important is the functionality, how that particular gear is going to perform for whatever purpose intended, and hopefully in some cases even better than expected...I assume that's why people get certain gear, so it fits a need during production. If you mean your EB is softer than the TLII or XLII, it definitely should be. The 414eb was used by Freddy Mercury on Queen's A Night at the Opera [btw]. Audio-Technica AT4050 SM. Would I prefer that? Warm Audio is sort of taking over the world right now. AKG C414 EB P48 on the left and Warm Audio WA-14 on the right. most people complaining about clones this and that, buy emulations software of vintage gear. The Set Up, Sources and Testing. Warm Audio WA-47 Large-Diaphragm Tube Condenser Microphone 4.6 out of 5 stars 17. WA12 500 MKII. Jet Phaser. WA12 MKII. $325. This stuff is all. AKG Pro Audio C414 XLS Stereoset Instrument Condenser Microphone, Multipattern, Matched Pair by AKG Pro Audio. as of now i need tools as cheap as possible with great quality, so i can make money and feed my family. I didn't think the WA2A was really a very good sounding compressor, period. Can't overlook that by any means... by Munson & Fletcher – by Munson & Fletcher. Warm Audio have steadily been building up a range of products that are aimed at copying industry classics for a fraction of the cost. 28 . As with the WA-87 and WA-14, modern reproductions of the legendary Neumann U87 and AKG C414, Warm Audio has not skimped on quality. £625. And I've yet to see anyone say that any Warm Audio gear is truly an exact replica of whatever they are copying. ... as of now i need tools as cheap as possible with great quality, so i can make money and feed my family. There's nothing wrong with being wrong. Guitar/Effects Pedals. 14 . 72 Customer Ratings: 5. I buy generic shells and cheese, does it taste exactly like velveta? Gear is subjective. From that point of view, the XLII is a very useful flavor of Obviously Rob Coates didn't think the WA-2a was up to snuff. €765.52. €276.72. chuch, does it taste exactly like velveta? Several people have compared the WA-2a to the vintage Teletronix and the UA reissue. I'd really like to hear an example of vintage things (same brand, model, design, year) sounding obviously different. If that's not relying on pure marketing hype to sell their stuff, I don't what is. Microphone Preamps. Warm Audio WA-47 The Warm Audio WA-47 is a modern update of a classic vintage recording tube microphone. The C414 did ok, and it's certainly adjustable enough in terms of the settings, but I hoped for something sharper. £777 ... Souded great. I don’t think they have to exclusively rely on clones anymore do they? Is it or isn't it? These are not the same, so making it seem so is misleading and....annoying. TB12 500 Tone Beast. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is, To me what's more important is the functionality, how that particular gear is going to perform for whatever purpose intended. Warm Audio WA-47jr. People complain all the time, as is their right, about various re-issues of all kinds not being up to snuff, or modified, or cheapened in some way. I have a few Warm Audio bits and a couple of c414 mics with brass capsule and if the Warm manage 70% of the sound, quality and vibe at that price then I'm game. Female w/track. Never again! The WA-14 is the second microphone that they are to produce following their U87 clone, the WA-87. Just a couple of comments from the peanut gallery here. It survived the switch over to digital medium, and AKG made changes to lower the noise floor. Most have said it's close, to varying degrees. WA73-EQ. It's a CEK12 capsule. TB12 500 Tone Beast. Do I send a letter to Putnam / UA or Neumann saying they've fooled me? WA273. generic macaroni will probably provide your family with enough nutrition to sustain them, whereas if you spent too much money on the fancy stuff - it might taste better but they might not get enough calories to live on. That's the very case with the C414, isn't it? C414 Capsules Explained. WA73-EQ. no..do i care they copied velveta double no. So if they emulate their own 414 and it sounds exactly like it should do, but it doesn't sound one to one with someone elses 414 then what? Foxy Tone Box. Please do that shootout. It is in reference to specific originals with the claim to nail their specific sound. Upgrade your studio with a variety of affordable condenser microphones by Warm Audio. Well that nails the reason I'm not a fan of WARM audio. Only 1 left in stock - order soon. Sounds very different from the pair of modern 414's I have. I have a pair of Ai units and if the Warm unit hits ball park then count me in. I have a few Warm Audio bits and a couple of c414 mics with brass capsule and if the Warm manage 70% of the sound, quality and vibe at that price then I'm game. Warm Audio WA-47 on the left and Peluso 22 47 LEon the right. most people complaining about clones this and that, buy emulations software of vintage gear. Guitar/Effects Pedals. I have no stock invested in none of these original companies, joe blow wants to make a clone and sell it to me dirt cheap i'll buy and move on with my life. The C414 XLS multipattern condenser microphone offers a choice of nine polar patterns for the perfect sonic capture for every application. I know for a fact that various microphones of the exact same make / model over the years do vary (for example U67). All those opinions (that are based on actual experience) are totally valid, even when they don't get along with one another. The Linear Technologies LT1357 has one of the fastest slew rates. The AKG C414 XLII is a multi-pattern condenser microphone offering a choice of nine polar patterns for the perfect sonic capture for every application. https://www.musictech.net/reviews/warm-audio-wa-47-wa-47jr-review smh. I have a pair of Ai units and if the Warm unit hits ball park then count me in. Yes, But now I do it inside the box, I will eventually get a little Avid Arist Mix for more hands on. C414 has an equivalent noise level of only 6 dB-A and a sensitivity of 23 mV/Pa, while C214's are 13 dB-A and 20 mV/Pa. If you have deep pockets go ahead and spend away, I am sure you will be pleased. Already have an account? I want to upgrade my overheads mics, and I narrowed to these two options. Your EB should definitely be airier than a b-ULS, though that airy top (if it's like the ones I've heard) is lovely and flattering and not brittle or bitey. Warm Audio WA-47. In my room, with lots of fiberglass and rockwool treatment, the WA14 is smoother and is going to stay on drum overheads. Might as well close down the forum. A lowly ART VLA II that I A/Bd it against sounded way better to my ears in every respect. The Dragonfly accentuated the high hat in an ugly way, a little too crispy, and the WA14 does not do that (in my room). $711. no..do i care they copied velveta double no. 24th November 2017 #344. trevon. Male w/track. $899. WA273. the Cinemag in a Retro 176 (not the one in a warm audio) is a beautiful transformer, as is the 3 metal one in a Wunder circuit. Warm Audio WA-87 . Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. I had been using a BLUE Dragonfly Deluxe (theoretically the same capsule as the Kiwi) for a couple of years. At that price. Seriously people you are arguing over a Mic that is not even out yet. Those who have used the Warm Audio WA-87 vocal mic have had really great … The one component that Warm Audio most aimed to accurately replicate in order to deliver the sought after sound similar to the C414 EB is this capsule. AKG Pro Audio C414 XLII Key Features ... Best Tube Mic: Warm Audio WA-47. One Cascade FatHead [ribbon] and a couple Warms the WA47jr and the one that I really was impressed with the WA-14 I obviously didn't have the $3200+ for the C414-EB but for my small setup, things are sounding good. In fact, if they even just sounds good/great then I'm in. Designed for accurate reproduction and transparency, the AKG C414 XLS features the same capsule as the popular C414 B-ULS. Foxy Tone Box. Let's not start making things up or we won't get anywhere fast. Also, is it that important and necessary that a clone has to absolutely nail the original? Direct Boxes. There are over 10 models of the AKG C414, with all sorts of voicing changes, with transformers and without. (512) 348-6585 [email protected] Home. €601.72. true enough however, ,most people go to velveeta and home made mac and cheese but most clients will be hard pressed to know the difference between a expensive mic and good quality clone. They’ve built a pretty good rep...would love to see what they could do with an original product. Maybe there's some snobbery. Products. I think trying is the only way to get any solid answer on anything. AKG C414 XLII. I never said it's an "incorrect or untrue way to feel". Direct Boxes. Some users have stated that AKG C414 quite noticeably sounds better than AKG C214 for delivering more clarity and details in the output. WA-412. Male Soloed. my whole point isnt on quality but the moral aspect of cloning itself. but for now all is good and I Really like that WA-14..... Would be interested to hear more opinions about this mic... You need an account to post a reply. Behringer is notoriously crappy, whereas WA is not. $1,099.00 . Female Soloed. Anyone compared the Warm Audio WA-14 to the AKG C414 XLII as drums overheads? But objectively in the relative minority in terms of the overwhelming support they get otherwise), and the rest by the way of spurious assumption and innuendo, which by many measures is totally bogus and without merit. WA73. The WA-14 is clearly a copy of the AKG C414 and is the first direct copy we’ve seen of this well-known model. History of the C414 AKG is one of the most respected brands in audio today. We compare Neumann's U87 Condenser mic to Warm Audio's more affordable WA87... Can you guess which is which? None of them said the WA-2a sounded exactly the same. If you are like me where life may have kicked your ass a few different ways, you can rise above and have a very excellent setup for less, I used to sit in front of a console that was Christopher Cross' [a 32x8 ch Soundcraft into and Ampex one inch with all the Yamaha Rev 7s and SPX 90s and eventides. This makes it the best mic for vocal recordings for the price. I DID do the shootout, and I thought I'd already posted my feelings but you just reminded me that the post didn't upload for some reason (dodgy WiFi) and I was too lazy to retype the whole dang thing! AKG C414 XLII . Great to hear from you. However, the WA-87 is not so much a re-creation as an homage, inspired by the sound of that classic microphone but with a character all its own. For live sound applications and permanent installations, all controls can easily be disabled for trouble-free use. What's also been touched on as annoying, is the freedom to express one's self freely on a forum such as this, whether it be an opinion on some piece of gear, or an opinion on some company's marketing, or anything else, without being called a crybaby or a snob or a racist or whatever else has been put forth. £1,155. Jet Phaser. and all these years later, recall how great they sounded. Female w/track. chuch, I buy generic shells and cheese, does it taste exactly like velveta? I think a key difference is the use of IP that is within the public domain, which WA practices. Neumann TLM 102 Studio Set. Isn't this the crux of the whole thing: even someone who extols the virtues of WARM audio admits their WA-2A doesn't sound like an LA-2A. I love my brass 414eb and wish I could afford another.. . On the microphone front, they have released the WA-47, WA-87 and WA-14 (modern reproductions of the classic Neumann U47, U87, and AKG C414), among others. Till you have heard it you don't know and are making assumptions valid or not. Yamaha HS8s monitors. $1,000.00. WA73. The classic U47 sound from the WA-47 is not only fitting for vocals, but sounds great on a variety of instruments including drums, guitar, piano, strings, woodwind or brass instruments and a wide-range of sounds. The C414 XLS Multi-Pattern Large Diaphragm Condenser Microphone has become one of the staples of the audio industry. $899.00. Part of the issue here is that precious few people own an original brass 414 EB and while I can understand the argument of 'The Warm sounds better than a current 414' IMO it's only fair to compare apple to apples. ... My C414’s first application as a soloist microphone was in a sea shanty choir where each member of the group did a lead for a song they had chosen. It's hard to make, and even harder to make consistently. View all Warm Audio products: Warm Audio’s professional gear offers unrivaled quality that won’t break the bank! The C414 XLS (left) is more transparent sounding than the C414 XLII, but the latter has a presence boost similar to the legendary C12, which makes it quite flattering on many sources. Whereas, Behringer consciously appropriates contemporaneous designs and technologies without batting an eye. Not those words, but you're implying that Rob Coates is somehow wrong. WA-412. Perhaps a versatile channel strip or something. Regardless of what it was supposed to emulate. I have a pair of EBs, but I am unlikely to ever purchase this mic. Female Soloed. The point is, the WA2A may sound true to the reference model they emulated (or near enough). £433. Universal Audio Apollo Twin X Quad. At that price. Warm Audio WA-2A. once i invest in stock in these companies i'll care. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. smh. AKG C414 EB P48 on the left and Warm Audio WA-14 on the right Based on the AKG C 414 of 1971, the Warm Audio WA-14 debuted in 2017 with mostly brass components. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. A lowly ART VLA II that I A/Bd it against sounded way better to my ears in every respect. I remember (from years ago) singing into one in Austin Tex. Male w/track. Warm Audio WA-47 Large-Diaphragm Tube Condenser Microphone 4.5 out of 5 stars 12. So far, we have not seen any high-volume (read: inexpensive) makers of the Siemens/AKG/CK12 type capsule. £725. I use PT12 and have a small collection of mics Shure 58s, 57s, A Beta-52and a Beta 87A. Those are somewhat brittle sounding iterations. No matter how smart you are it's part and parcel of being human, it's a learning methodolgy accumulated within other means of learning. I have assembled a nice little project studio, I also considered what I would need rather than pipe dreams, so I got some nicer things like a Focusrite Clarett 8 preX and a Clarett OctoPre, my other Pre selections a an ISA one, a UA 710 Twinfinity, a WA 73-eq. I want to upgrade my overheads mics, and I narrowed to these two options. Chad, hope the latest hurricane doesn't set you back. I really, really wanted to believe that the WA2A was going to sound great, only to get one, test it for a couple hours and realize...been fooled again by that company. My friend has a studio with all the bells and whistles... API console bunches of 500 series stuff, tons of outboard gear and 2 U67s @ 16,000 a piece and multiple 10s of thousand in mics alone. I purchased one recently, having used C414s years ago. I believe this is how it all started. For live sound applications and permanent installations, all controls can easily be disabled for trouble-free use. Hey there! Lives for gear . Warm Audio WA-251 Tube Condenser Microphone Warm Audio has earned their great reputation by producing high quality reproductions of classic studio gear at an affordable price. Big part in improving most respected brands in Audio today and feed family. 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